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Children and Young People Scrutiny Panel - 26 Novermber 2007

PRESENT: Councillor Wilson in the chair.

Councillors Mrs Bromby (vice-chair), Cawsey, Eckhardt, N Sherwood, Smith and Whiteley.

The panel met at Pittwood House, Scunthorpe.

14 DECLARATIONS - OF PERSONAL OR PERSONAL AND PREJUDICIAL INTERESTS AND DECLARATIONS OF WHIPPING ARRANGEMENTS (IF ANY) - There were no declarations of personal or personal and prejudicial interests.

No whip was declared.

15 PUBLIC REQUESTS TO SPEAK – There were no requests received

16 INFORMATIVE DISCUSSION ON THE ‘CHILDRENS BOARD AND OVERVIEW AND SCRUTINY’ – The Chair advised members that Richard Stiff, Deputy Chief Executive (Individuals) had been invited to the meeting to explain the role of the Children’s Board, its relationship with overview and scrutiny and the possibility of involving scrutiny members on the Children’s Board in future.

The panel was advised by the Deputy Chief Executive (Individuals) it would not be possible to include the Chair/ Vice Chair of the Children and Young People Scrutiny panel on the Children’s Board due to constraints outlined within the Children’s Partnership Agreement between the Council and the North Lincolnshire Primary Care Trust. This agreement detailed the membership of the Board. This was a legally binding agreement.

Richard Stiff added that there was scope to amend this after 1 April 2008, with the possibility of more open membership. This could lead to a more parallel working arrangement with Overview and Scrutiny. He suggested that currently, if the Chair/ Vice Chair or any scrutiny members attended the Children’s Board, a conflict of interest could arise with the working of the scrutiny panel.

Resolved – (a) That it be noted that under the current agreement it is not possible to appoint the Chair/ Vice Chair onto the Children’s Board, and (b) that this be reconsidered after the 1 April 2008.

POLICY REVIEW – CHILD AND ADOLESCENT MENTAL HEALTH SERVICE (CAMHS)

17 Introduction, discussion and the views of Mick Gibbs, Head of Operations for Children and Young People’s Services, on CAMHS – Further to minute 9, the Chair advised the panel that Mick Gibbs had accepted the invitation to be a non-voting co-opted member, and had met with the Chair and Vice Chair at a recent scoping meeting to discuss his role. The Chair invited Mick Gibbs to address the panel.

The panel was advised that CAMHS fitted well within the Children’s Board umbrella, with responsibilities cutting across the five tiers of the ‘Every Child Matters’ and the Children and Young Peoples’ plan. He explained, however, that there were two areas of vulnerability, these being disabled children and children in care.

Mick Gibbs expanded on his statement by highlighting key areas to be assessed, how many children and adolescents needed the services of CAMHS, how many have access to it, and was the timing of intervention correct?

The panel received further information on the agencies involved at different levels, ranging from multi agency to more specialised units dealing with behavioural problems. Measures were needed to ensure that psychiatric assistance was available 24/7, to monitor how the transition for 16/17 year olds was undertaken, complex care needs and the linkage with substance misuse. Knowledge of these would provide a broader scope of the service. It was confirmed that performance indicators were to be introduced soon to monitor the progress in these areas, but at present there was little information to support that these measures were in place and being met.

The panel engaged in further discussions and were advised about the referral routes to CAMHS, the approximate number of children and adolescents within each tier of the service, the involvement of the multi agency prevention team and the problems faced with addressing the 16/18 year old.

It was agreed that CAMHS was a too large a topic to review in its entirety, and that the review must concentrate on specific areas within the CAMHS service.

Resolved – That the review concentrate on the specialist CAMHS service and also the lack of provision for 16/18 year olds.

18 Meeting with Primary Care Trust – To confirm date, time and arrangements.

Panel members were advised by the Service Director Legal and Democratic, that arrangements had been made for a scoping meeting with the Primary Care Trust. This had been arranged for 2.00pm on 6 December 2007, 2.00 pm at Pittwood House. All panel members were invited to attend.

Resolved – That the above meeting be arranged for an earlier time of 1.00 pm on 6 December 2007.

19 LEADER OF THE COUNCIL'S FORWARD PLAN – DECEMBER 2007 TO MARCH 2008 - The Service Director Legal and Democratic circulated the Leader of North Lincolnshire Council's Forward Plan for December 2007 to March 2008 .

The plan contained details of all matters and issues likely to be the subject of key decisions for a period of the next four months, updated on a monthly basis. Members discussed various items on the Forward Plan.

Resolved - That the Leader of the Council's Forward Plan for December 2007 to March 2008 be noted.

20 MONITORING THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF PREVIOUS SCRUTINY REVIEWS – Panel members were addressed by the Service Director Legal and Democratic who reaffirmed that part of the Overview and Scrutiny process was to ensure that the recommendations agreed in previous reports had been implemented.

To assist the Scrutiny panel in this process, information was circulated to highlight the reviews that had not been revisited and provide a brief outline of the recommendations that had been suggested.

The Chair agreed that it was necessary for the panel to review previous reports to ensure that work had been undertaken and to hold the Executive to account. It was noted that there were three reports in particular that should be followed up by the Children and Young People Scrutiny panel; these being (i) Recruitment and Retention of Parent Governors, (ii) The National Healthy Schools Standard and (iii) Every Child Matters – the Common Assessment Framework.

Resolved – (a) That the Service Director Legal and Democratic contact the relevant senior officers and obtain feedback on the progress of implementing the recommendations contained within the three reports above, and (b) that the findings be reported back to the panel at the next full panel meeting with appropriate officers in attendance.


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